You think you were excited about what Lamborghini was unveiling at Geneva? We talked to two of the three gentlemen who bought a Lamborghini Veneno for more than $4 million before they ever set eyes on the real thing. That's love... and a lot of faith in Lamborghini's designers. The rumor of a front-engined GT from Lamborghini at GYou feel you had been fired up about what Lamborghini was unveiling at Geneva? We talked to two of the three gentlemen who purchased a Lamborghini Veneno for far more than $4 million prior to they ever set eyes on the true issue. That's really like. and a whole lot of faith in Lamborghini's designers.
The rumor of a front-engined GT from Lamborghini at Geneva turned out to be not far more than a clever distraction. As an alternative, we got the Veneno, and it's been a week since Mr. Winkelmann presented the prototype at Geneva, so we all had some time to think about this anniversary special.
Chris Harris didn't get it, and also explained that given that the Gallardo is ten many years previous now, the warning bells are out there for Lambo. He has driven Lamborghinis prior to, whilst I haven't. But still, I respectfully disagree. The Gallardo is an extremely potent and good searching vehicle even after a decade, and whilst a substitute is absolutely due, the Diablo was produced for eleven years and I'd still take a six. VT SE from 2001 rather of an early Murcielago.
So I'm with Travis on this. The Veneno is certainly the following poster on young children's walls, and that's precisely what the two smiling males wearing Veneno pins on their jackets told us throughout the 1st two minutes of our conversation. Meet Antoine Dominic, former Ferrari client and present owner of Lamborghini Long Island, and Kris Singh, Managing Director of Tequesta Investments from Florida. They just spent $4 million every single on an automobile they haven't truly seen apart from some renderings before placing down their deposits. But they've noticed it now, and couldn't be happier.
We are clearly all fanboys at the table, the only distinction is that they can acquire their dream cars while Peter and I remain on the other side of the glass. Nevertheless, money was not enough if you wished to personal a Veneno.
Lamborghini very carefully chose the trio, and looking at the American pair, I'm beginning to recognize why the factory took their income. They're in really like with the brand. Antoine used to very own a Ferrari F40 which scared him out of his mind, an F50 which necessary a braking plan in advance, and an Enzo which was wonderful but not too user pleasant thanks to its firm suspension.
He nevertheless has a Maserati MC12 and a specific Bentley ISR in his garage just in case, but the truth that he grew to become a Lamborghini dealer tells a whole lot. Kris is in his thirties, and not afraid to joke close to a bit. He provides credit score to Volkswagen for making the best vehicle in the planet ( the Bugatti Veyron) by marrying a Beetle to an Audi TT RS. He also owned Ferraris ahead of, and tells us that the final ones he liked had been the 430 Scuderia and the 16M, but even now he would select a Gallardo Superleggera or Performante rather of individuals. They don't like Ferrari's new headlamps. I'm onboard.
Kris calls Lamborghini's Chief Designer, Filippo Perini a contemporary day Marcello Gandini, a genius in brief. He also begged Winkelmann to promote him the Estoque, and will get the Lambo SUV as soon as it hits the showrooms.
But it's not just the shapes that these guys choose to other supercar makers. They really like the direct feel of the single clutch gearbox (Kris can't see why anyone would need to have more rapidly shift-times than 50 milliseconds), and the raw power of the new V12. Antoine puts it this way: "When you have the very best design, the ideal engine and the greatest gearbox, you have an unbeatable blend."
Looking at Peter's MacBook, Kris is keen to give a high 5 for the old V12's firing order. He understands the numbers as he used them for codes in the previous. I get my higher five when I inform them how significantly I dislike when men and women hide away their unusual vehicles. They assure us the Venenos won't be hidden. Antoine will place his on display at the showroom in Lengthy Island, while Kris will drive his all around Florida as significantly as possible. He wants to be the guy sharing the poster car with the kids on the street. The cars are in good hands.
We commence to talk about efficiency, and given that they each drive Aventadors, they know the figures. Due to the fact Lamborghini is fighting for reduced fat as an alternative of getting more horsepower, 691 horses and the all-wheel drive technique can take the base auto to 62 mph in 2.eight seconds. They think that's greater than what the McLaren P1 or the LaFerrari can do with all those heavy electrics.
If not, who cares? These guys locate Veyrons soulless. They desired "the spaceship that landed in the floor over there." And they acquired it. Only the shade of the stripes on their automobiles remains a secret.
Look at this rear, and picture it with a numberplate. Michael Lock, the boss of Lamborghini North America calls it "crazy" with a huge smile on his encounter. I couldn't agree far more. Crazy is what they've been marketing because the Countach, and hunting at the wheel arches of the Veneno, they plainly haven't forgot about that legacy. When I tell him that it surprised me two of the 3 autos ended up in North America, he says he desired to promote all three. In the end, one went to the Middle-East. Nonetheless, Europe only will get the prototype in the Lamborghini Museum, so America quite considerably won this round.
I'm curious what can he inform me about long term Lamborghinis, but we begin with the last couple of many years rather. Considering that everyone loved the Estoque notion, I'm pondering why they choose to build a SUV as the third model.
Surprisingly, he says there is basically no adequate platform at the VW Group, and before I could request about the Porsche Panamera, he tells us that's also unwanted fat. Then he corrects it to "well-constructed" with yet another smile, but the facts remain. As he puts it, Lamborghini won't do badge engineering. So sticking Lamborghini badges and a carbon body on a Panamera chassis is not going to take place. The Urus is different, and they're just waiting for VW's green light to begin. Having a far better base for that, the engineers have sufficient flexibility to turn it into a correct Lamborghini. That indicates obtaining much less bodyweight, radical styling and far more electrical power than anyone else on the industry. That's the Lambo way.
We talk about China for an although, and it turns out that's the only market exactly where Ferrari can't outsell Lamborghini like it does everywhere else. The reason is that Chinese little ones neither had Lamborghini or Ferrari posters on their walls thirty years ago. Ferrari's motorsport heritage just doesn't count in Asia, so it's all down to nowadays's styling and overall performance. So allow's search at those.
The Veneno may well appear like some thing that was designed by a child on LSD, but don't get fooled by that. The giant adjustable wing, that insane diffusor and the sharp spoilers in the front are all there to enhance aerodynamics, that means much more downforce and significantly less drag. Thanks to the entirely new carbon fiber body and light-weight supplies on the inside like the carbonskin trimming, the Veneno prototype is 270 lbs lighter than the Aventador. And the three manufacturing cars will be even lighter than that. The auto also will get a modified suspension with new dampers, springs and anti roll bar to help that extra grip.
According to Lamborghini's Study and Development Director Maurizio Reggiani, each team involved in the method could finish with a content feeling. The designers could go severe, the aerodynamics team wasn't restricted by styling, and the engineers could flip that V12 into something even mightier surrounded by the most superior supplies accessible.
The end result is three,218 lbs propelled by 750 horsepower. In contrast to the Aventador's V12, the Veneno's has enhanced back-pressure on the exhaust side, retuned engine management and a brand new camshaft for higher revs. The redline is at 9000rpm although maximum electrical power comes at 8700. All that final results in a vehicle with an electronically constrained prime pace of 220 mph. He wouldn't tell us what it could do without having the nanny, but I guess a lot more would be the right response.
Lamborghini will stay usually aspirated for now. That's the most responsive engine, and that's what they want from their autos. If they attain the level when rules make it impossible, forced induction is the following phase, and only when that's not sufficient will they flip to hybrids in their supercars. The purpose is basic: lower bodyweight is the most efficient instrument in the pursuit of velocity, while electric programs are heavy and big. Packaging is an situation when you want excellent balance. The Urus SUV is a various story. That will be big sufficient for a hybrid energy train, and the positioning shouldn't be a dilemma either. So it's not like they are living in the previous at Lamborghini, they just have a sturdy concept of what's proper for their merchandise.
In the end, the critics are practically proper. McLaren and Ferrari presented the new generation of supercars at the Geneva Motor Show, and Porsche is not far behind with their advancement. Lamborghini on the other hand went there to celebrate, with the craziest car we've seen in many years. The only dilemma is that I don't consider the hybrids could beat that spaceship on tarmac.
eneva turned out to be not more than a clever distraction. Instead, we got the Veneno, and it's been a week since Mr. Winkelmann presented the prototype at Geneva, so we all had some time to think about this anniversary special. Chris Harris didn't get it, and also said that since the Gallardo is ten years old now, the warning bells are out there for Lambo. He has driven Lamborghinis before, while I haven't. But still, I respectfully disagree. The Gallardo is a very potent and good looking car even after a decade, and while a replacement is surely due, the Diablo was produced for eleven years and I'd still take a 6.0 VT SE from 2001 instead of an early Murcielago. So I'm with Travis on this. The Veneno is indeed the next poster on children's walls, and that's exactly what the two smiling men wearing Veneno pins on their jackets told us during the first two minutes of our conversation. Meet Antoine Dominic, former Ferrari customer and current owner of Lamborghini Long Island, and Kris Singh, Managing Director of Tequesta Investments from Florida. They just spent $4 million each on a car they haven't really seen apart from some renderings before putting down their deposits. But they've seen it now, and couldn't be happier. Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It We are clearly all fanboys at the table, the only difference is that they can buy their dream cars while Peter and I remain on the other side of the glass. Still, money was not enough if you wanted to own a Veneno. Lamborghini carefully chose the trio, and looking at the American pair, I'm beginning to understand why the factory took their money. They're in love with the brand. Antoine used to own a Ferrari F40 which scared him out of his mind, an F50 which needed a braking plan in advance, and an Enzo which was great but not too user friendly thanks to its firm suspension. He still has a Maserati MC12 and a special Bentley ISR in his garage just in case, but the fact that he became a Lamborghini dealer tells a lot. Kris is in his thirties, and not afraid to joke around a bit. He gives credit to Volkswagen for creating the best car in the world ( the Bugatti Veyron) by marrying a Beetle to an Audi TT RS. He also owned Ferraris before, and tells us that the last ones he liked were the 430 Scuderia and the 16M, but still he would choose a Gallardo Superleggera or Performante instead of those. They don't like Ferrari's new headlamps. I'm onboard. Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It Kris calls Lamborghini's Chief Designer, Filippo Perini a modern day Marcello Gandini, a genius in short. He also begged Winkelmann to sell him the Estoque, and will buy the Lambo SUV as soon as it hits the showrooms. But it's not just the shapes that these guys prefer to other supercar makers. They love the direct feel of the single clutch gearbox (Kris can't see why anybody would need faster shift-times than 50 milliseconds), and the raw power of the new V12. Antoine puts it this way: "When you have the best design, the best engine and the best gearbox, you have an unbeatable combination." Looking at Peter's MacBook, Kris is keen to give a high five for the old V12's firing order. He knows the numbers as he used them for codes in the past. I get my high five when I tell them how much I hate when people hide away their rare cars. They assure us the Venenos won't be hidden. Antoine will put his on display at the showroom in Long Island, while Kris will drive his around Florida as much as possible. He wants to be the guy sharing the poster car with the children on the street. The cars are in good hands. We start to talk about performance, and since they both drive Aventadors, they know the figures. Because Lamborghini is fighting for reduced weight instead of having more horsepower, 691 horses and the all-wheel drive system can take the base car to 62 mph in 2.8 seconds. They believe that's better than what the McLaren P1 or the LaFerrari can do with all those heavy electrics. If not, who cares? These guys find Veyrons soulless. They wanted "the spaceship that landed in the floor over there." And they got it. Only the color of the stripes on their cars remains a secret. Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It Look at this rear, and imagine it with a numberplate. Michael Lock, the boss of Lamborghini North America calls it "crazy" with a big smile on his face. I couldn't agree more. Crazy is what they've been selling since the Countach, and looking at the wheel arches of the Veneno, they clearly haven't forgot about that legacy. When I tell him that it surprised me two of the three cars ended up in North America, he says he wanted to sell all three. In the end, one went to the Middle-East. Still, Europe only gets the prototype in the Lamborghini Museum, so America pretty much won this round. Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It I'm curious what can he tell me about future Lamborghinis, but we start with the last few years instead. Since everybody loved the Estoque concept, I'm wondering why they choose to build a SUV as the third model. Surprisingly, he says there is simply no sufficient platform at the VW Group, and before I could ask about the Porsche Panamera, he tells us that's too fat. Then he corrects it to "well-built" with another smile, but the facts remain. As he puts it, Lamborghini won't do badge engineering. So sticking Lamborghini badges and a carbon body on a Panamera chassis is not going to happen. The Urus is different, and they're just waiting for VW's green light to start. Having a better base for that, the engineers have enough flexibility to turn it into a proper Lamborghini. That means having less weight, radical styling and more power than anybody else on the market. That's the Lambo way. Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It We talk about China for a while, and it turns out that's the only market where Ferrari can't outsell Lamborghini like it does everywhere else. The reason is that Chinese kids neither had Lamborghini or Ferrari posters on their walls thirty years ago. Ferrari's motorsport heritage simply doesn't count in Asia, so it's all down to today's styling and performance. So let's look at those... Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It The Veneno might look like something that was designed by a child on LSD, but don't get fooled by that. The giant adjustable wing, that insane diffusor and the sharp spoilers in the front are all there to improve aerodynamics, meaning more downforce and less drag. Thanks to the completely new carbon fiber body and lightweight materials on the inside like the carbonskin trimming, the Veneno prototype is 270 pounds lighter than the Aventador. And the three production cars will be even lighter than that. The car also gets a modified suspension with new dampers, springs and anti roll bar to support that extra grip. Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It According to Lamborghini's Research and Development Director Maurizio Reggiani, every team involved in the process could finish with a happy feeling. The designers could go extreme, the aerodynamics team wasn't limited by styling, and the engineers could turn that V12 into something even mightier surrounded by the most advanced materials available. The end result is 3,218 pounds propelled by 750 horsepower. Compared to the Aventador's V12, the Veneno's has improved back-pressure on the exhaust side, retuned engine management and a brand new camshaft for higher revs. The redline is at 9000rpm while maximum power comes at 8700. All that results in a car with an electronically limited top speed of 220 mph. He wouldn't tell us what it could do without the nanny, but I guess more would be the right answer. Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It Lamborghini will stay normally aspirated for now. That's the most responsive engine, and that's what they want from their cars. If they reach the point when regulations make it impossible, forced induction is the next step, and only when that's not enough will they turn to hybrids in their supercars. The reason is simple: low weight is the most efficient tool in the pursuit of speed, while electric systems are heavy and large. Packaging is an issue when you want perfect balance. The Urus SUV is a different story. That will be big enough for a hybrid power train, and the positioning shouldn't be a problem either. So it's not like they are living in the past at Lamborghini, they just have a strong idea of what's right for their products. Meet The Guys Who Paid $4 Million For The Lamborghini Veneno Before Seeing It In the end, the critics are almost right. McLaren and Ferrari presented the new generation of supercars at the Geneva Motor Show, and Porsche is not far behind with their development. Lamborghini on the other hand went there to celebrate, with the craziest car we've seen in years. The only problem is that I don't think the hybrids could beat that spaceship on tarmac...
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